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are also locked in The Vault...
2011-02-23 20:49:24 I've put Martin's Fermat theorem investigation into the Vault yesterday... please see comments on attached talk page.
Warning: This whole site is heading for the Vault, guys! —NormanNitram
2011-02-24 03:54:25 good move norman. —PerigGouanvic
2011-02-24 03:56:50 PI is at its best when it is biting, like with the BAAS, BSF, wikipedia on climate change.
Hope PI evolves in that direction. —PerigGouanvic
2011-02-24 20:02:42 Yes, we need a 'campaign' ) that suits the site.... I guess that's internet based research and links stuff... 'hot' issues, as our competitor site, The Daily Beast' would say!
But goodness, we aren't short of ideas... trouble is we're not able to follow 'em up! I know I'm struggling, those 'other commitments', blah, blah...
But I'm really going to get that astro page started soon! —docmartin
2011-04-14 13:41:34 See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign ![[WWW]](http://wikispot.org/wiki/eggheadbeta/img/sycamore-www.png){kind=small}
http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker
By John Borland 08.14.07
CalTech graduate student Virgil Griffith built a search tool that traces IP addresses of those who make Wikipedia changes.
On November 17th, 2005, an anonymous Wikipedia user deleted 15 paragraphs from an article on e-voting machine-vendor Diebold, excising an entire section critical of the company's machines. While anonymous, such changes typically leave behind digital fingerprints offering hints about the contributor, such as the location of the computer used to make the edits. —PerigGouanvic
2011-04-27 18:33:49 Re, ZP, ah yes, this is an old story, isn't it? Almost WP misinformation. The interesting question is who is hiding behind those pseudonyms = is there a cabal? Is the CIA running the show, as per most things? —NormanNitram
2011-05-02 16:22:20 ZP? —PerigGouanvic
2011-05-03 19:59:25 QP? —docmartin
2011-05-11 20:03:35 Just to say that although we have been demoted from 'Featured Wiki' status at the factory up the road, we are back on the list of 'past featured wikis', as indeed we ougther be.
INteresting thing is the summary offered for what we get up to here"
'philosophical-investigations an investigative research resource'
I like that! Get investigating wikiwarriors! —NormanNitram
2011-05-15 17:06:37 Who's this new 'Pat' dude then P-A? —NormanNitram
2011-07-09 22:07:32 A reader of 'Mind Games' has pointed out that the great Dr Rapaille, expert in the 'working of the reptile mind' has more than a few over tricks in his closet///
this account might be of interest to Perig, expecially as it is in French!
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-soleil/dossiers/quebec-et-son-image/201003/27/01-4264884-clotaire-rapaille-decrypte-un-homme-et-sa-legende.php —docmartin
2011-08-22 04:26:59 Sorry, this Pat dude is creating a wiki in French with me, there might some 'cross-polinization' soon! —PerigGouanvic
2011-08-22 04:28:47 This Pr/Dr Rapaille, an empty shell. Uncool. He conned the mayor of Quebec city, recently... —PerigGouanvic
but why is that not cool? - Docmartin
because conning a mayor means conning the population - PG
2011-08-22 18:49:21 ok, that deserves a new investigation : I thought the background color of the site was some greyish color — and i was wrong. The color picker shows that t's pure white, and the style.css file too! Is it because of the green line? the Grey buttons?
2011-08-22 20:42:50 Admins, a short visit to pi-lab, perhaps? http://pi-lab.wikispot.org/Noticeboard#head-1bf54c89a34a807e3c02764029c14b049866b8ea
— see ya there, dudes - Docmartin
Changes ahead — PG
2011-08-27 12:39:54 The march of totalitarian reason takes another small step forward over at the Guardian!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/26/bad-science-vitamin-pills-lead-you-to-take-risks
Goldacre says here that any action however benign in itself is to be opposed if it may lead to another action that is risky. For example, if you go for a swim and then eat an ice cream, not only is the fatty food 'bad' but so is the bit of exercise... —NormanNitram
2011-09-02 01:35:02 Changes were done to the css in accordance with previous talks (see pi-lab link above). Good to get rid of the green line, isn't it? You may consider the other option : 
2011-09-06 10:47:52 The brown in this image is quite neat. P-A, you realise changes of color affect things like colored boxes on exisitng pages? Gotta be careful.... —NormanNitram
Yes, we could try the brown, and perhaps find stg in between (ivory and brown). When we get it right, we'll arrange the color boxes that don't match so well, okay? — PG
2011-09-06 10:48:37 Where's that cartoon from? Quite like it... —NormanNitram
Here: Wikipedia Cabals... but it seems to originate from "deviant ART", see here: "here" —PerigGouanvic
Thanks Perig, actually didn't manage to follow that link, but I doubt if anything 'originates' with Wikipedia, whatever people like the Guardian environment journalistss seem to imagine... Deviant Art sounds about right! = DM
2011-09-16 12:01:56 Perhaps we should have an astrological investigations button now...? —docmartin
2011-09-19 19:38:35 Perig, if you're around... is there a way to create a tempalte for Ahmed so that he can easily start pages in a subdirectory which are all restricted to him and the editors to read? —docmartin
I don't know how we could do that, very honestly, because the security features are not accessible except when we click the security button. That's an interesting concept, that we may submit to wikispot technicians. — PG
2011-09-24 17:40:16 This vanilla white effect is kinda growing on me, P-A... —NormanNitram
2011-09-24 17:57:16 I'm adding AndreBriton to the Astrology group - good to get his imput on this. —NormanNitram
2011-09-24 19:30:55 sorry, I missed those recent posts. Back soon —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-24 22:36:48 Perig, any chance of a nice logo for the Astrology pages, while we're pestering you?! —docmartin
2011-09-27 06:05:59 A modified PI logo, you mean? —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-27 06:37:56 Top banner : I tried 6 colours and found that this one was not as bad as the earlier one (vanilla), which itself was not as bad as the previous (the green). I hope everyone can tolerate it, until there's something that strikes us as perfect, if possible. —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-27 06:39:35 revert button can be used for css files as well, Doc, Norman. I did not imagine that it would be so long to find stg to replace the green. —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-27 10:18:50 Actually, Perig , I LIKED the vanilla, loked dead callsy to me... can we have it back?
Re the Rambles, any chance you could create a template, yes, that includes a variation on the PI theme? Or delegate teh visuals to me if you like, but that's maybe the more interesting part!
? to Mark - any more signs in the brewing yet? —docmartin
2011-09-27 15:49:47 Another misundertanding! I came to hate the color because I thought it exasperated you, you know how colours are, apparently always the same... —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-27 15:53:57 a variation of the PI square, just like we did for the vault, etc.? okay, i'll think about it. I mean, i'll be be-thought. hm. —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-27 17:26:38 Vault-esque, yes, actually I can't resist fiddling with it now myself... will post something here later....
Good to see cheery ol' vanilla back! I don't say we can't improve it, but I supsect the contrast was too great against the snow white essays? —docmartin
2011-09-28 16:16:34 yes, "snow white" essays, that's the thing i didn't understand, and still don't, you're referring to those pages where there's no color, only text? —PerigGouanvic
2011-09-28 18:41:09 'Snow white' = I suppose I just meant the whiter our pages go, the more the implied message of 'academic purity' respectability, that sort of thing... —docmartin
2011-11-09 06:13:44 Gift ideas for Christmas :
Theory action figures
MICHEL FOUCAULT
Keenly aware of the fluidity of social identities, this 6.5" Michel Foucault waves his baton in poststructuralist style at all challenges. Shrouded in a special removeable French cloak and with a built-in thoughtful head movement, this superb action figure is essential for both professional philosophers and junior postmodernists.
Catalog no. THEOR-02-69-FOU
$14.99 
http://www.theory.org.uk/action.htm —PerigGouanvic
2011-11-09 12:05:03 But you can't buy 'em... it's a fake - a sham! —docmartin
But as the postmodern say, all theory is a sham, so it's not a sham, well, hmmm. — pg
2011-11-10 19:51:44 quite useful link, but you have to know how to download torrents: http://ca.isohunt.com/download/146842753/Public+Domain+Philosophy.torrent —PerigGouanvic
2011-11-15 23:44:00 I've just done this page... [How to add images] - where should we put it? In 'Meta', yes, but maybe even in the side bar? Lot's of people have asked about this... —NormanNitram
I can think of several other quick links like this one that we could put in the margin. Remember that ppl often shy away from wikis because they don't think it's for them, to "understand the code", the big bad "code" — PG
'Illuminate' away! - DM
A link to a video showing all the basic operations we do normally. — PG
Dusting off the mainframe/ drinking coffee out of plastic cups - all that stuff, too? Sounds good! - NN
What page could serve as a good, nice example, for editing? I need a page name, a thing to add or modify, and i'll do the rest, cum placere. — pg
'My first page'? WikiPee has THAT Sandbox too... - NN
I wasn't thinking of an example on how to start from zip, I was asking what page can be worked on the wiki way. However, there is clearly a habit here of letting each author do his stuff and expecting commentaries on the talk page. So, right, there should be a "My first page". Then, could someone provide some content to create a "first page" with image and all basic formatting issues? — pg
2011-11-25 18:49:31 Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock The Global Warming Debate http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/ —PerigGouanvic
2011-11-25 18:56:44 The Closed, Unfriendly World Of Wikipedia
http://daggle.com/closed-unfriendly-world-wikipedia-2853
Discussin will be going on the next days i think —PerigGouanvic
2011-11-25 23:23:16 That one wouldn't load in to my time machine... any bits worth summarising? —docmartin
The story of a newcomer who wanted to undelete a page he's specialized in. The story of an adminstrative nightmare. Summarizing woud go against the idea. However, I'm eager to see what discussions will yield. Closed for a while. — pg
2011-11-29 00:36:48 Ah, I see the good Dr Sanger has been demonstrating his love of debate again!
He insists phonics is the best because Wikipedia says so, (or something) and doesn't want to hear about 'controversial' aspects, eg it may not work, it seems to add an extra layer of learning to the process of reading, and it certainly seems to be too complex for most children at the age that they, wel, learn to read.
Maybe I should pop over and add a reply - just like old times!
(this is a great summary, I thought, too...
'Why Phonics Instruction Sometimes Fails', http://www.edublox.com/phonics-instruction-fails.htm —docmartin
Pop up. Yes, I'd say it should be a habit of the new intellectual... letters to the editor, internet version.... more twitterized, less in each letter but on more article discussion boards. — pg
2011-11-30 22:46:37 How about a page on 'Language Acquisition' and the child - or those reading issues? —NormanNitram
Tough topic. Would be fascinating. LISTENING TO LEARN OR LEARNING TO LISTEN?
L Vandergrift - Annual Review of Applied Linguistics, 2004.
The Tomatis approach, which has received more attention in Europe than inNorth America, is based on the premise that the ear is the key organ to languagelearning. The Tomatis approach uses special headsets to enhance sound perception,allowing the listener to perceive sounds through bone as well as air. Tomatis’sunique theory of language acquisition assumes that there is a close link betweenspeech perception and speech production and that the ear can be trained orreeducated to perceive and analyze sounds through an auditory selection process. Ina controlled experiment, Joiner (2000) found that the Tomatis group slightlyoutperformed the control group in comprehension, and many participants reportedsalutary effects on pronunciation skills and singing on key. Although technologyrequirements presently preclude widespread classroom use of the Tomatis approach,research in Europe continues (Kaunzuer, 2001) http://scholar.googleusercontent.com/scholar?q=cache:_vrAs7tb8TEJ:scholar.google.com/&hl=fr&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1
Listening Disabilities: The Plight of Many - Alfred Tomatis
enlisten.com/pdf/ListeningDisabilities.pdf by BM Thompson—pg
2011-12-01 23:18:07 Finding : more scientific research on AGW decreases AGW. Good news at last?
The climate may not be as sensitive to carbon dioxide as previously believed http://www.economist.com/node/21540224 —PerigGouanvic
2011-12-03 00:33:18 Yes, the Economist is just rehashing old stuff there... but this paper on language acquisition - makes me wonder. Could it be that a key factor in child learning is how clearly and disticntly parents speak? Because typically the poorer parents will have accents or high-speed talk that make words less distinct in the delivery. If this actually impedes language acquisiton, then children are slightly handicapped.
Conversely, academic parents or professionals speaking standard dialects with 'lecture style' intonation - measured, slower and more careful, no short-cuts! would then give their children not just the obvious 'good language' introduction, but actually promote the more subtle processes in thinking that use language internally.
Something like that anyway!
I think we should start a page, as Norman in his wisdom has suggested above. —docmartin
2011-12-03 07:52:41 Depardieu tells his story about how tomatis changed his life, taught him to hear english by listening to american mother's uterine voices : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD6LOG69dbQ —PerigGouanvic
