Can life after death be proven?
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Evidence-based religion
Taking the pulse of the 'consensus', we learn that:
Plato's later answer (nota: to the objections to his system based on Heavenly Forms) would be that people already know the Forms because they were in the world of Forms before birth. (...) Science would certainly reject the unverifiable and in ancient times investigative men such as Aristotle mistrusted the whole idea. The comedian Aristophanes even wrote a play, the Clouds, poking fun of Socrates with his head in the clouds.
But the fact is that Plato presented this idea as verifiable! In another account of the Other World, Socrates tells the story of someone who went there and came back to tell his story: Er the Pamphylian.1 It's one of those claims of near-death experience told all over the world, accross history, that biologists like Aristotle and demagogues like Aristophanes preferred, and still prefer to 'mistrust' — or should we say disbelieve?
The main difference between now and then is that these 'experiences', whether they prove to be purely subjective and delusional or not, can be rather easily investigated, especially in hospital units where people are 'resuscitated', often minutes after the theoretical irreversible brain death. Most intellectuals (and many believers) don't 'venture' however in these matters, and don't find it 'glorious' at all, thanks to our modern Aristophanes and Aristotles!
- We now interrupt the program to present the intervention of an anonymous contributor:-
Pineal Gland is not widely known by the majority of the average person, now called sheople and that's how it's been set up by the ruling elite. The very food, drink and other products used in everyday life are also used to dumb us down and part us further from the truth. But there are clues, if you know where to look. "Vatican City" has a huge sculpture of what travelers describe as a giant pine cone. It is in fact the very thing we need to connect to our ancestral memories and discover truth and cosmic knowledge. The ruling elite scumbags know exactly how important this small gland in our brain is, including the pope. His staff also has a pineal gland carved into it.
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Case studies
| Reanimating science with defibrillators | ||
| “What near-death experiencers see correlates to their time of cardiac arrest and it is almost uniformly accurate in every detail. That pretty much refutes the possibility that these could be illusionary fragments, or unreal memories associated with hypoxia, chemicals, REM intrusion, anything that could cause brain dysfunction" | ||
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“we looked at nine lines of evidence that indicate the reality of near-death experiences and their consistent message of an afterlife. With each of these lines of evidence we carefully reviewed all prior scholarly research on the subject and made our contributions with our original research… from my point of view, the scientific term is compelling, but you can put it another way — the nine lines of evidence that I present is proof of the reality of near-death experiences.” Jeffrey Long, M.D., radiation oncologist in Houma, Louisiana |
"Of course, of the people who have had a near-death experience, essentially 100 percent come back being very convinced of its reality. The interesting thing is that includes near-death experiencers that were scientists and physicians themselves. If they ever doubted near-death experience before, once they have one they come back, grow to understand it, they accept the reality of near-death experience." | |
- 1The Republic, Plato
