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2009-09-21 21:59:51   This is controversial stuff, Doc! I've added a bit of extra protection to the page. Let me know if you need changes on the other GW ones too. —NormanNitram


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2009-09-24 12:58:22   Love the cuddly bear! —docmartin


2010-04-22 21:10:33   Ahh! We should do more of this!! Remember when a philosopher got kicked out of Citizendium? That was quite something as well!! *grin* —PerigGouanvic


2010-09-06 20:52:24   a superb collection of quotes from a reader's contribution to Christopher Booker's piece in september 5th, 2010, Sunday Telegraph:

to capture the public's imagination...
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts...
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports

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"We've got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms of
economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth,
President of the UN Foundation

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"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world."
- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment

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“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

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“The models are convenient fictions
that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University

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"I believe it is appropriate to have an 'over-representation' of the facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience."
- Al Gore,
Climate Change activist

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"It doesn't matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace

- DocM


2010-09-06 22:07:38   This is quite frightening too:

" Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced — a catastrophe of our own making."

Usual source: – Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth —docmartin


2011-11-24 17:12:53   Maybe this article escaped your attention? Scientists, you are fallible. Get off the pedestal and join the common herd —Climatologists above all need to rediscover the virtue of self-criticism - or others will continue to question their evidence. [WWW]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/04/scientists-fallibilty-self-criticism-questionPerigGouanvic


2011-11-24 18:42:42   Actually, I DID see that one, (thanks) it's a nice piece. Simon Jenkins is the 'good' side of the Guardian... (even replies briefly to my emails!)

He's written some strong pieces 'defrocking' the medical profession too. —docmartin


2011-11-25 18:52:40   thanks for the info, I'll have to ride that horse again some day, "health freedom".


2011-11-25 18:53:55   also see the more recent climategate revelations. i was wondering why there was more AGW stories on TV, these days. There you go, that's why. —PerigGouanvic

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